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	<title>Comments on: LIFEbeat&#8217;s Anti-Gay Death Concert</title>
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	<description>Black. Gay. Father. Vegetarian. Buddhist. Liberal.</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alexandra</title>
		<link>http://www.republicoft.com/2006/07/10/lifebeats-anti-gay-death-concert/#comment-18160</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lifebeat likely doesn't care about much more than money. The use of homophobic racist bigots in their venues proves this. What's next? Will they book prussian blue?

The problem with AIDS prevention is that many groups have no intent on preventing or curing AIDS. The money is too sweet to their tastes and they are too cold hearted to care about the millions who are dying.

Any organization that promotes hate groups should be denied permits in the city. Let them go out in the middle of nowhere and hate their promotion of hate concert.

-Alexandra</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lifebeat likely doesn&#8217;t care about much more than money. The use of homophobic racist bigots in their venues proves this. What&#8217;s next? Will they book prussian blue?</p>
<p>The problem with AIDS prevention is that many groups have no intent on preventing or curing AIDS. The money is too sweet to their tastes and they are too cold hearted to care about the millions who are dying.</p>
<p>Any organization that promotes hate groups should be denied permits in the city. Let them go out in the middle of nowhere and hate their promotion of hate concert.</p>
<p>-Alexandra</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://www.republicoft.com/2006/07/10/lifebeats-anti-gay-death-concert/#comment-1032</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 21:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many HIV/AIDS groups that do not advocate the killing of ANYONE. Those are the organizations that get my money, not those who give free publicity to scum who advocate murder. I have never heard of a gay-based advocacy group that condones the murder of black people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many HIV/AIDS groups that do not advocate the killing of ANYONE. Those are the organizations that get my money, not those who give free publicity to scum who advocate murder. I have never heard of a gay-based advocacy group that condones the murder of black people.</p>
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		<title>By: Zak</title>
		<link>http://www.republicoft.com/2006/07/10/lifebeats-anti-gay-death-concert/#comment-1000</link>
		<dc:creator>Zak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 19:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Underdog,

Sit on a tack!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Underdog,</p>
<p>Sit on a tack!</p>
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		<title>By: Underdog</title>
		<link>http://www.republicoft.com/2006/07/10/lifebeats-anti-gay-death-concert/#comment-999</link>
		<dc:creator>Underdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 19:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm astounded by the selfishness of the homosexuals complaining about the musicians.  This isn't about people who can't seem to accept the consequences resulting from their inability to control their behaviors.  There are plenty of non-homosexuals in this world who have AIDS due to no fault of their own.
It seems to me that offended homosexuals should step back and let other affected people benefit from the concert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m astounded by the selfishness of the homosexuals complaining about the musicians.  This isn&#8217;t about people who can&#8217;t seem to accept the consequences resulting from their inability to control their behaviors.  There are plenty of non-homosexuals in this world who have AIDS due to no fault of their own.<br />
It seems to me that offended homosexuals should step back and let other affected people benefit from the concert.</p>
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		<title>By: Zak</title>
		<link>http://www.republicoft.com/2006/07/10/lifebeats-anti-gay-death-concert/#comment-998</link>
		<dc:creator>Zak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Fred,

You make a well structure argument, but I still disagree with your reasoning.  I appreciate the effort you put into it though.  It has given me food for thought.  Thanks!

First of all, the event is a Reggae concert and that limits the number of available acts to Reggae musicians.   Also, from a promoters point of view, it is advantageous to have acts with name recognition.  This will draw more attendees. I will grant that the offended/gay sympathetic segment will decrease the net attendance.  It will attract the audience of the "offensive" artists.  Will this offset the attendance lost by offended potential attendees?  I don't know.   That is a gamble the promoter has taken.
I suspect that Beanie Man and the others probably have fans that aren't homophobic nut-jobs.  This is probably a significant demograhpic.  I think they are an important demograhpic to reach out to in AIDS awareness because they are probably proverbial fence-sitters with regard to AIDS and related issues.

Second, about the issue of spokesmanship.  What message does it send when Beanie Man &#38; Co. take a stand that is supportive of the HIV population?  

If these people purport to want to kill homosexuals, why are they donating their time to perfor for a cause that will help so many homosexuals live?  What are they communicating to their impressionalbe fans?
Don't you think this blunts some of their former anti-gay rhetoric?  Why would this be such a bad thing?
In my opinion this brings us together.  I honestly think this is a healing rather than hurting event.

With regarding insulting ALL gay people with money,I suspect that you are over generalizing.  While there is a significant number of opposition from the gay community, it appears to me to be the vocal minority.
Besides, I think this event is targeted at young people (teenagers and college-aged folks), not middle-aged professionals.

About the hate crimes Terrance listed, how many of them are actually motivated by anti-gay sentiment.  In a lot of them there is enough ambiguity that these crimes would have happend regardless of a persons sexuality, but the victim happened to be gay.

I am ,by profession, a crime policy analyst.  To the best of my knowledge incidence of Hate or Bias crimes are grossly exagerated.

Anyway,
Peace out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Fred,</p>
<p>You make a well structure argument, but I still disagree with your reasoning.  I appreciate the effort you put into it though.  It has given me food for thought.  Thanks!</p>
<p>First of all, the event is a Reggae concert and that limits the number of available acts to Reggae musicians.   Also, from a promoters point of view, it is advantageous to have acts with name recognition.  This will draw more attendees. I will grant that the offended/gay sympathetic segment will decrease the net attendance.  It will attract the audience of the &#8220;offensive&#8221; artists.  Will this offset the attendance lost by offended potential attendees?  I don&#8217;t know.   That is a gamble the promoter has taken.<br />
I suspect that Beanie Man and the others probably have fans that aren&#8217;t homophobic nut-jobs.  This is probably a significant demograhpic.  I think they are an important demograhpic to reach out to in AIDS awareness because they are probably proverbial fence-sitters with regard to AIDS and related issues.</p>
<p>Second, about the issue of spokesmanship.  What message does it send when Beanie Man &amp; Co. take a stand that is supportive of the HIV population?  </p>
<p>If these people purport to want to kill homosexuals, why are they donating their time to perfor for a cause that will help so many homosexuals live?  What are they communicating to their impressionalbe fans?<br />
Don&#8217;t you think this blunts some of their former anti-gay rhetoric?  Why would this be such a bad thing?<br />
In my opinion this brings us together.  I honestly think this is a healing rather than hurting event.</p>
<p>With regarding insulting ALL gay people with money,I suspect that you are over generalizing.  While there is a significant number of opposition from the gay community, it appears to me to be the vocal minority.<br />
Besides, I think this event is targeted at young people (teenagers and college-aged folks), not middle-aged professionals.</p>
<p>About the hate crimes Terrance listed, how many of them are actually motivated by anti-gay sentiment.  In a lot of them there is enough ambiguity that these crimes would have happend regardless of a persons sexuality, but the victim happened to be gay.</p>
<p>I am ,by profession, a crime policy analyst.  To the best of my knowledge incidence of Hate or Bias crimes are grossly exagerated.</p>
<p>Anyway,<br />
Peace out!</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2006-07-13</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2006-07-13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 00:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A US anti-Aids benefit concert has a load of anti-gay musicians in its line-up LIFEbeat&#8217;s attitude defies belief, really. &#8220;Promote Life! Fight Death! Unless you&#8217;re gay, in which case expect a bullet in the back of your head!&#8221; (tags: republicoft lifebeat antigay homophobia hiv aids campaigns) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A US anti-Aids benefit concert has a load of anti-gay musicians in its line-up LIFEbeat&#8217;s attitude defies belief, really. &#8220;Promote Life! Fight Death! Unless you&#8217;re gay, in which case expect a bullet in the back of your head!&#8221; (tags: republicoft lifebeat antigay homophobia hiv aids campaigns) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Fnord</title>
		<link>http://www.republicoft.com/2006/07/10/lifebeats-anti-gay-death-concert/#comment-975</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Fnord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 20:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Zak.

Look, let's put it in plain terms: there are artists out there who do advocate violence against homosexuals, and there are artists out there who don't.  In fact, there are artists in all genres who don't go out of their way to instruct their listeners in the finer points of killing gay people, and, though it is not widely known, some of them are even just as popular as the ones who do!  And in the same genres, even!  (Who'd'a thunk, right?)

Given that, and given that there are, in fact, a lot of homosexuals with HIV, wouldn't it have been politer to have given the job of semi-official spokesman for the organization for a day (and yes, that's how it comes out looking, and in this case perception is reality) to someone who has not in fact expressed the wish to kill a large portion of the people who the event is supposed to benefit?  Given that there is no downside, since you could still bring in the same crowd with other, just as popular artists?

Oddly enough, I see a major downside to insulting a large chunk of your current donor base (gay people, people who are sensitive to gay issues, people who don't like music that encourages murder, people with taste (oop, sorry, are my prejudices showing?) and so forth), when there's no real reason to.

-fred</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Zak.</p>
<p>Look, let&#8217;s put it in plain terms: there are artists out there who do advocate violence against homosexuals, and there are artists out there who don&#8217;t.  In fact, there are artists in all genres who don&#8217;t go out of their way to instruct their listeners in the finer points of killing gay people, and, though it is not widely known, some of them are even just as popular as the ones who do!  And in the same genres, even!  (Who&#8217;d'a thunk, right?)</p>
<p>Given that, and given that there are, in fact, a lot of homosexuals with HIV, wouldn&#8217;t it have been politer to have given the job of semi-official spokesman for the organization for a day (and yes, that&#8217;s how it comes out looking, and in this case perception is reality) to someone who has not in fact expressed the wish to kill a large portion of the people who the event is supposed to benefit?  Given that there is no downside, since you could still bring in the same crowd with other, just as popular artists?</p>
<p>Oddly enough, I see a major downside to insulting a large chunk of your current donor base (gay people, people who are sensitive to gay issues, people who don&#8217;t like music that encourages murder, people with taste (oop, sorry, are my prejudices showing?) and so forth), when there&#8217;s no real reason to.</p>
<p>-fred</p>
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		<title>By: Zak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 19:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on, Terrance!

The Lifebeat concert does not require embracing your annihilation.  If beanie man wanted to kill you, don't you think he or his legions of homophobic fans would have done so by now?  You'd better be on the look out for teenage boys in rastawear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on, Terrance!</p>
<p>The Lifebeat concert does not require embracing your annihilation.  If beanie man wanted to kill you, don&#8217;t you think he or his legions of homophobic fans would have done so by now?  You&#8217;d better be on the look out for teenage boys in rastawear.</p>
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		<title>By: terrance</title>
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		<dc:creator>terrance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 17:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that embracing the common good always, to hear some people tell it, always seems to require embracing my own annihilation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that embracing the common good always, to hear some people tell it, always seems to require embracing my own annihilation?</p>
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		<title>By: Zak</title>
		<link>http://www.republicoft.com/2006/07/10/lifebeats-anti-gay-death-concert/#comment-968</link>
		<dc:creator>Zak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 16:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant disparate not desparate.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant disparate not desparate.  <img src='http://www.republicoft.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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