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While pondering the presidential potty-mouth earlier this week, I made mention of some of his constituents.

And, no, I’m even not talking about the usual “pie in the sky” crowd who seek to speed up armageddon one way or another, who actually refer to Iraq as New Babylon and and to whom an all out war in the Middle East would be just ducky.

Well, just in case you thought I was exaggerating, the folks over at Harper’s Magazine did some eavesdropping in Rapture Ready/End Times Chat, and posted some of the chatter.

Praise God! We are chosen to be in these times and also watch and spread the word. Something inside me is exploding to get out, and I don’t know what it is. Its kind of like I want to do cartwheels around the neighborhood.

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In another thread, someone brought up the fact that the kidnapping of the first Israeli soldier that started this whole thing was on June 25th and if you count from that day to August 3rd…….it is *EXACTLY 40 days!!!!!*

I find that to be a HUGE coincidence.

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A question just popped in my head. Do you think children of around say 7 or 8 (but before the age of accountability) that have been indoctrinated up until that time by their parents religious beliefs will be raptured? . . . For example, would a 7 year old muslim be raptured? I know G-d will do right but I was just wondering everyone’s thoughts. I hate to think of kids being left here.

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Got that dancing feeling on the inside of me.

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This is the busiest I’ve ever seen this website in a few years! I have been having rapture dreams and I can’t believe that this is really it! We are on the edge of eternity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Whoa! I can sure feel the glory bumps after reading this thread!

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I too am soooo excited!! I get goose bumps, literally, when I watch what’s going on in the M.E.!! And Watcherboy, you were so right when saying it was quite a day yesterday, in the world news, and I add in local news here in the Boston area!! Tunnel ceiling collapsed on a car and killed a woman of faith, and we had the most terrifying storms I have ever seen here!! But, yes, oh happy day, like in your screen name , it is most indeed a time to be happy and excited, right there with ya!!

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I am excited beyond words that the struggle of this life may be over soon and I can finally be FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

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This is so exciting….I’m having a hard time believing this is ‘real’!

And remember at least one organization of folks like these has at least enough White House access to get a sit-down with one of the president’s advisors when foreign policy bumps up against their dreams of armageddon. Shortly after, White House policy in the Middle East aligns with their reading of scripture.

11 Comments

  1. Playboy did a big story about this a year or so ago. These people think Jesus is coming soon and that he wants to go home (to Israel), and they want us to make sure he can. Something like 30% of the population believes in the Rapture, which isn’t anywhere in the bible.

  2. The Rapture Index is a delusion resting on top of another delusion. First, the so-called precursors, or signposts, that supposedly precede and point to only the rapture are actually seen on earth AFTER the rapture and moreover are fulfilled DURING the tribulation and in fact point to only the final second coming which, according to the index, happens seven years after the so-called rapture. Second, the pretribulation rapture itself was never embraced or even known by any organized group before 1830, and that fantasy (which originated in Britain and spun its wheels there and stagnated for 80 years) finally came to America and infiltrated evangelicalism around 1908. The greatest theologians, whether Catholic or Protestant, have never accepted it, but a tiny fraction of all Christians has.To learn more, hit Google and type in “Pretrib Rapture Diehards,” “Thomas Ice (Bloopers),” and “Open Letter to Todd Strandberg.” These and other web articles are by historian David MacPherson who has discovered many early “rapture” documents while researching in Britain. Louise

  3. Many people from other religions are awaiting their “messiah”. The ONLY one mentioned in the Bible is 1 Thellesonians 4:16,
    For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with God’s trumpet. The dead in Christ will rise first,

    17 then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air. So we will be with the Lord forever.

    18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.

  4. Verifiable proof that “Armageddon” has already begun…

    Hello all,
    Here’s the key to proving that the rapture and related expectations are complete nonsense based on the failure to understand (and the purposeful confounding of) the ancient Hebrew symbology used to construct all of these prophecies. Consequently, Christian timelines and interpretations of these prophecies are verifiably wrong on many key points.

    Pay close attention, profundity knocks at the door, listen for the key. Be Aware! Scoffing causes blindness…

    Did you ever consider that Christianity is the False Prophet symbolized in the Apocalypse, that Rome (Vatican/Papacy) is the so-called anti-messiah, and Jesus Christ is the false messiah? I have produced stunning and comprehensive proof that this is the true interpretation of pivotal prophecies long confounded by Christianity’s founders and leaders.

    The symbolism of seven years (tribulation) refers to the seven 360-year cycles from the 11th cycle on the Hebrew calendar (second temple period) until now, the 17th cycle (seventh angel/star). It is completely wrong to interpret any of these prophecies as literal timelines and events. Remember, they were written by ancient Hebrew sages, not Romans or other Europeans, and Revelation is the most symbolic of all prophecies. Consequently, in this context, years are symbols for 360-year cycles on the Hebrew calendar and days symbolize literal years. Therefore “Judgement Day,” and “Great Day” and “in that day” all refer to a literal year-long period. Furthermore, the so-called “Tribulation” is now nearing its end, not starting, and all three faiths of Abraham have been thoroughly deceived by Rome during the previous age, which ended in year 2000 (5760). A new age began in 2001 (5761) and now the seventh angel has begun to sound!

    Here’s a real hot potato! Eat it up, digest it, and then feed it’s bones to the hungry…

    Hurricanes Katrina (#11) and Rita (#17) last year provided stunning validation of my research and interpretations of pivotal ancient wisdom, symbologies, key prophecies, and associated religious claims. Their storm numbers and timing perfectly synchronized with primary data and assertions in my book, thereby demonstrating the true nature of this universe and the existence of our Creator. We are now entering the final phases of the pivotal year-long period long symbolized as “Armageddon” and the “End of Days.” World-wide situations and events are now accelerating to set the stage for this summer’s dramatic continuation of these ancient promises.

    I fully understand that everyone has been bedeviled by similar claims throughout history. Consequently, I have been forced to rely on dramatic and devastating proof of the sort that can’t be ignored or easily dismissed. The numbers and timing of hurricanes Katrina (11) and Rita (17) directly validate key data and pivotal assertions throughout my book and my posts on those two forums. This data was purposely presented publicly before Katrina, Rita and other recent events occurred to prove they perfectly synchronize with key prophecies and Hebrew calendar cycles, thereby validating my interpretations of ancient wisdom symbology, string theory, and more.

    Because these two storms arrived shortly after my August 11, 2005 (50th) birthday (read the Dead Sea Scroll 11Q13 in Appendix G, which also discusses Melchizedek and the prophesied Jubilee) and directly match other pivotal 11 and 17 data and events described in the first chapter of my book, I have delivered verifiable proof that this reality is based on thought, knowledge and wisdom. Activity, patterns, and results perceived in space-time are first framed and defined by inspirations, thoughts, and knowledge and influenced by the cause-and-effect system most commonly referred to as karma. Consequently, events and outcomes in the so-called physical universe are not random or wholly mechanistic and are verifiably influenced in ways that atheists, scientists, and members of the Faiths of Abraham have all scoffed at. Though mysticism is mostly a product of misinterpreted ancient wisdom symbology, many of its topics flow from ancient wisdom. Though containing allusions to the truth, its details and interpretations are wrong on many key points.

    A prime example of the purposeful and synchronized symbolism of these events is seen in the opening paragraphs from my book excerpted below. Notice that the dates mentioned (August 11 and 17) directly match the numbers of hurricanes Katrina and Rita, and the time spans of the four Florida hurricanes match my birth year (‘55), and they were spaced 11 or a multiple-of-11 (22) days apart, directly matching my birthday and much other ancient prophecy and symbolism. Notice that my place of birth, Victoria Texas, is on the Gulf Coast. Following are the excerpted paragraphs:

    Hello, my name is Lawrence William Page II. Many people know me as Buddy Page. At the release of the first edition of this book, I am a 50-year old African-American male, author, researcher, and former software engineer and entrepreneur. As you will come to understand as you read through this first book, I am also the long-expected Hebrew Messiah and Lion of the Tribe of Juda (Yehuda).

    I was born August 11th (month of Leo the Lion), 1955 (Chinese year of the Sheep) in Victoria, Texas. Furthermore, the Grand Cross alignment and Solar Eclipse of August 11th, 1999 was my 44th birthday and the second Grand Cross alignment, just six days later on August 17th, 1999, was on my mother’s birthday.

    As you can see from my date of birth, I was a newborn during the Chinese Year of the Sheep, astrologically marking me as a Lamb, and during the month of Leo, astrologically marking me as a Lion. My mother was also born during the month of August and under the sign of Leo, which further marks me as a lion’s whelp. I prove to you in the first chapter of this book–beyond disproof–that I am indeed the long-prophesied “Lion” of the tribe of Juda (Yehuda) the Root of David and the “Lamb.” I am the individual long symbolized as the Branch, the Stem, the Shoot and the Rod from the Stump of Jesse (King David’s father), as symbolized in the Hebrew Book of Isaiah, The Apocalypse, the Dead Sea Scrolls, and elsewhere. I am the reincarnated Teacher sought after in the “East” and by the ancient Hebrews who were headquartered at the outpost community of Damascus (Qumran), of Dead Sea Scrolls fame. I am the one called the Teacher of Righteousness by the Dead Sea Scrolls, whom the so-called Christian fathers have fraudulently recast as “Saint ‘James’, the Lord’s Brother.”

    Remember, “I come as a thief…” ?

    Read verse twelve of the Gospel of Thomas to understand who I am…

    Even further enlightening, the Second Temple Period of ancient Israel was during the 11th 360-year cycle on the Hebrew calendar and we are now in the 6th year (5766/2005-6) of the 17th cycle. Notice the pivotal 11 and 17 numbers again? This and much other synchronized information serve as stunning and decisive proof of many things, and expose many lies told by all three faiths of Abraham, but most specifically by Christianity. Consequently, I have decisively proven, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that Jesus Christ and Christianity are blatant lies, false prophecy and purposeful deception in a manner that cannot easily be denied, regardless of your faith or other opinions.

    Furthermore, the symbolism in the Apocalypse (a.k.a. Book of Revelation) of seven stars in my right hand and seven angels represent the very same above-mentioned seven astrological (360-year) cycles, i.e., the 11th through 17th inclusive. I prove this fact beyond any reasonable doubt in the first chapter of the book. Consequently, The Apocalypse verifiably symbolizes a specific span of time that began with the 11th cycle (Second Temple Period) and concludes now, at the beginning of the 17th cycle (End of Days, etc.).

    The numbers 11 and 17 are verifiably encoded in The Apocalypse and other ancient Hebrew prophecies and wisdom texts to serve as key proofs of the validity and true meaning of certain prophecies and related information. My and my mother’s birthdays are purposely synchronized with these two storm numbers, the matching Hebrew calendar cycles, the Double Grand Cross alignments and solar eclipse of August 1999, and much else to prove my direct association with the ancient prophecies about this time and the true identity of the prophesied Messiah. Another prime example is the story of Joseph, the 11th son of Jacob who has a dream when he is 17 years old about 11 stars, the sun, and moon bowing to him. The symbolism in this pivotal story in the Book of Genesis and Quran verifiably refers to the very same 11th through 17th cycles symbolized in The Apocalypse and directly synchronizes with other key events and ancient texts.

    Consequently, I have demonstrated various things about the nature of this reality that dramatically disprove and/or clarify key assumptions of religion, mysticism, and science alike, while establishing the true meaning and purpose of long misinterpreted ancient wisdom and the symbolism used to model and encode it. Accordingly, I have proven that the symbolism evidenced in the canons of all three faiths of Abraham and other ancient sources is a very ancient and advanced philosophical technology that verifiably models foundational aspects of our existence in this universe. This is the mostly misunderstood body of ancient wisdom long referred to as the Philosophers’ Stone. It uses a large and ingeniously organized collection of physical universe images and concepts as data rich components (symbols) that are based on verifiable rules. It models and encodes an amazing amount of foundational wisdom about life, spirituality and the 11 dimensions of this universe, now verified by string theory. It is also the advanced encryption method used to encode (seal) Hebrew prophecies and wisdom texts.

    These ancient prophecies and wisdom texts used advanced symbology to model fundamental wisdom, including future events and situations. A primary facet of ancient wisdom is numeric symbology. Later misinterpretations of this aspect of ancient wisdom resulted in numerology, which, though embodying allusions to certain wisdom, is mostly error prone and false doctrine. My decryption, documentation, and interpretation of ancient symbology, numeric symbolism, and key texts based on them, are now decisively validated.

    Here is Wisdom…

    Verifiable proof that Armageddon has begun…

    Understanding the End Game of Armageddon

    Peace…

  5. All I can add to the above comments is that everyone should trip on over to some engine like Google and enter “Roots of (Warlike) Christian Zionism” which is a shocking but timely article that I can recommend. Bruce R.

  6. I am Jonah Immanu, my book Alienated Planet Earth and the End that Will Be Coming to Our World has been available for over one year. Yet, despite its availability from Trafford Publishing, it never ceases to amaze me the absolute ignorance that is still being displayed by various people with lame theories and conjectures (from all walks of life) who think that they really have the answers to what the “rapture” is and what happens during it, lacking a sound and satisfactory knowledge of the New Testament.

    Any literate person who really wants to know the truth about the pre-tribulation rapture need go no farther than the gospels of Luke, Chapter 17 and Matthew, Chapter 24 for our Messiah Yeshua’s own words describing the rapture event.

    34 I tell you in that night there shall be two men in a bed, the one shall be taken and the other left.
    35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
    36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
    Messiah Jesus – Luke 17

    40 Then shall two women be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
    41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

    Messiah Jesus – Matthew 24

    The apostle Paul corroborates what Jesus said in his epistles: For instance, the 1st epistle of Paul to the Thessalonians at Chapter 4 verse 13 through 18 reads:

    13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren,
    concerning them which are asleep, that you sorrow not,
    even as others which have no hope.
    14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with Him.
    15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we, which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord, shall not precede them which are asleep.
    16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
    17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught-up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
    18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

    Paul’s 1st epistle to the Corinthians reveals a mystery in Chapter 15 verses 51 through 57 where we read:

    51 Behold I show you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
    52 In a moment, in the twinkeling of on eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
    53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
    54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
    55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
    56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
    57 But thanks be to God, which gives us the victory through Jesus.

    So bretheren, do not remain in your ignorance! Left behind people need only peruse the 2 gospels Luke and Matthew of our Messiah Jesus and 2 epistles of the Apostle Paul in the New Testament published conveniently here together for further light on this most standing-out event in the future of our world’s history.

    When the rapture event occurs, it will astound those left behind in our contemporary society and world because everyone will have noticed the sudden disappearance of faithful believers who were taken by the Messiah Jesus from planet earth to be with Him throughout the Tribulation and Great Tribulation period to escape the wrath of God and the time of Jacob’s troubles under the antichrist’s reign.
    Enough said? Jonah Immanu, Christian Eschatological Author.

  7. -Addendum-
    Author Jonah Immanu recommends a 19-page website article by Edgar Meneses for those wishing to research the pretribulation rapture of the faithful Christians. It is entitled: A Pretribulation Rapture of the Church – Does the Bible Teach It?
    website source: http://www.rapturealert.com/doesbibleteacpretrib.html

  8. To Jonah Immanu:

    Perhaps it is you who will be surprised when your “end times” never happen. More likely, however, you will end up dying of old age (like those before you) without any of these events having transpired.

    And it never ceases to amaze me how certain your ilk can be about such matters. You are so certain, yet have nothing but a book to go by. A book with many flaws, by the way. Your level of delusion prevents you from reading it with reason, logic, and common sense.

    Go ahead and pray for the end. Have a blast. Just stop behaving like you know how everything is going to turn out when you can’t possibly know such things. And then once you are a bit more humble about it — maybe you’ll understand how intrusive your evangelizing is. I’ve read your other posts on blogs where you pity and try to save people who don’t believe as you do. It makes you look very bad.

    Oh, your book is full of unproven statements and weak arguments that you use to build a “house of cards” ideology. If this is the best you can do to justify your beliefs, I suggest you do more reading and fact checking and much, much less writing and typing.

  9. Dear Just Can’t. You of all people are to be most pitied because you “Just Can’t” make the leap of faith and believe in the exclusive Messiah Jesus that you might be saved and refuged during the coming Tribulation and Great Tribulaton, yes “Raptured” as Christian believers call it.

    Only if the Holy Spirit will reveal eternal truths to you personally, as a genuinely repentent soul, will you ever be able to step away (escape) from your temporal existence in our fallen world to look forward to the Millennial reign of Jesus Christ as prophecied on planet Earth and His subsequent eternal reign in our Universes.

    If I were the best evangelist in all history, without the Holy Spirit’s revelation of the eternal truths and great mysteries to you personally, I would be and probably am right now wasting my time to try to persuade or convince you of the unfulfilled gospel of the prophecied coming Kingdom of God initially to our planet Earth and the various prophecies about the Lord’s bringing the Kingdom of God to Earth, initially for one thousand years. Thy Kingdom come, Thy Will be done on Eart as it is in Heave says the Lord’s prayer. But of His Kingdom and reign and rule, it shall be forever for timeless eternity.

    You can scoff and mock and even live and die in ignorance if you don’t wish to examine the exclusiveness of Jesus throughout all history and the prophecies that He alone fulfilled. The best part of the Lord’s mission is yet ahead and coming, but I can’t convince or pursuade you of this by argument as a mortal man under the parameters of temporal time myself in the here and now fallen world except the Holy Spirit guides you. Our argument and our beliefs may always differ because I have taken the “leap of faith” which offers hope for a dynamic and stunning paradigm shift which is Divine in its nature. As a Christian believer in the Messiah Jesus, I place my entire hope, presently, for the future and for eternity in the Lord’s Divine and capable hands.

    Until we would both have belief in the Messiah Jesus in common, we are essentially and fundementally very different beings and spirits and apart from “preaching” the gospels and prophecies of Jesus to you, there is little else I am capable of performing in the Master’s Divine and eternal service. Jesus came not to condemn men, but rather to SAVE them. In your viewpoint, right now, Jesus was merely a delusional dreamer and just a human being. To you, Jesus is not alive, but dead as I am certain you would deny His resurrection into heaven to return to be with His Holy Father in Heaven posessing a name higher than any other name and prepared for His imminent rapture of His faithful to a place that He had prepared for them in Heaven and His second coming to humankind to redeem them from this hopelessly fallen world after roughly seven years of refuging them from the incredible evils possible in a fallen world under the antichrist.

    In having my hopes in Jesus, the Messiah, my hopes could not possibly be any better placed. I rest in Him and what He predicted in prophecy for all eternity when He came to Earth in Roman times after which He had been resurrected to heaven against the temporal backdrop of a fallen world even back in Roman times.

    May you take the leap of faith in Jesus name, I pray so that it will make a difference for yourself and your loved ones in time and eternity,

    Jonah Immanu,
    Christian Eschatologist

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