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		<title>By: Sokari</title>
		<link>http://www.republicoft.com/2007/03/19/are-blacks-more-homophobic/comment-page-1/#comment-62931</link>
		<dc:creator>Sokari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From my own personal experience I would say black people are more homophobic but is that because I am with Black people more than white so I pick it up more or is it that as one of the other commenter&#039;s said because Black people are more willing to express their homophobia? Is it because I hear lyrics by Hip Hop/Rap/Ragga artists that are violently homophobic but dont here same from white bands - there are so many &quot;is it&quot;. I am from Nigeria a country that is about to pass a bill not only making the homosexual act illegal (which is the case in all African countries except South Africa) but also making all LGBT people illegal people and any advocacy or support of the LGBT community also illegal.  Even here in SA where I am presently living there is a huge gap between the consititution (which gives the LGBTI community equal rights and same sex marriage is legal,) and the community of people.  Homophobia is rife to the point that lesbians in particular are victims of &quot;curative rape&quot; to &quot;cure&quot; them, beatings and verbal abuse.  The LGBT community is not free to be open about their relationships in public spaces for fear of abuse or worse. But is this different to South America or the Middle East, Iran etc I doubt it. But as a Black lesbian my concern is how the Black community reacts cause that is where I live and that is why black homophobia is of more concern to me that any one elses homophobia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From my own personal experience I would say black people are more homophobic but is that because I am with Black people more than white so I pick it up more or is it that as one of the other commenter&#8217;s said because Black people are more willing to express their homophobia? Is it because I hear lyrics by Hip Hop/Rap/Ragga artists that are violently homophobic but dont here same from white bands &#8211; there are so many &#8220;is it&#8221;. I am from Nigeria a country that is about to pass a bill not only making the homosexual act illegal (which is the case in all African countries except South Africa) but also making all LGBT people illegal people and any advocacy or support of the LGBT community also illegal.  Even here in SA where I am presently living there is a huge gap between the consititution (which gives the LGBTI community equal rights and same sex marriage is legal,) and the community of people.  Homophobia is rife to the point that lesbians in particular are victims of &#8220;curative rape&#8221; to &#8220;cure&#8221; them, beatings and verbal abuse.  The LGBT community is not free to be open about their relationships in public spaces for fear of abuse or worse. But is this different to South America or the Middle East, Iran etc I doubt it. But as a Black lesbian my concern is how the Black community reacts cause that is where I live and that is why black homophobia is of more concern to me that any one elses homophobia.</p>
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		<title>By: Walt Tanner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walt Tanner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny--I&#039;m a white who has worked with a lot of black communities and churches, and at a get-together this weekend with all-whites, I said that blacks were more homophobic than whites and got trashed by everyone as a racist. Its pretty uncontroversial to me: the facts are blacks go to church more than whites (this can be backed up with solid sociological research) and, well, I think you get the connection. The many anecdotes and deep thinking of the black situation in this post just confirms my original reason for believing: that is, more religious people are more homophobic.

The disconcerting thing is that the reaction to my statement was so knee-jerk, such an ingrained, guilty response to the perceived &quot;prejudiced&quot; thinking. But that&#039;s typical white priviledge: you overcome (in your head) hundreds of years of racism by denying that anyone talk about difference between races. That&#039;s just plain stupid, and if it hadn&#039;t of been St. Paddy&#039;s day after much intoxicants, I probably would have argued the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny&#8211;I&#8217;m a white who has worked with a lot of black communities and churches, and at a get-together this weekend with all-whites, I said that blacks were more homophobic than whites and got trashed by everyone as a racist. Its pretty uncontroversial to me: the facts are blacks go to church more than whites (this can be backed up with solid sociological research) and, well, I think you get the connection. The many anecdotes and deep thinking of the black situation in this post just confirms my original reason for believing: that is, more religious people are more homophobic.</p>
<p>The disconcerting thing is that the reaction to my statement was so knee-jerk, such an ingrained, guilty response to the perceived &#8220;prejudiced&#8221; thinking. But that&#8217;s typical white priviledge: you overcome (in your head) hundreds of years of racism by denying that anyone talk about difference between races. That&#8217;s just plain stupid, and if it hadn&#8217;t of been St. Paddy&#8217;s day after much intoxicants, I probably would have argued the point.</p>
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		<title>By: Homophobia in the Black Community &#171; The Blog and the Bullet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Homophobia in the Black Community &#171; The Blog and the Bullet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Posted by Jack Stephens on March 21st, 2007  Terrance blogs about homophobia and the Black community in his blog The Republic of T.: He’s right in terms of black homophobia having its roots in the homophobia of the dominant society, just as Horace Griffin traces it back to the “queering” (as I imagine Dyson might put it) of black sexuality going all the way back to slavery and the inculcation of black slaves into a conservative, biblically literalistic Christianity during a sexually repressed Victorian era. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Posted by Jack Stephens on March 21st, 2007  Terrance blogs about homophobia and the Black community in his blog The Republic of T.: He’s right in terms of black homophobia having its roots in the homophobia of the dominant society, just as Horace Griffin traces it back to the “queering” (as I imagine Dyson might put it) of black sexuality going all the way back to slavery and the inculcation of black slaves into a conservative, biblically literalistic Christianity during a sexually repressed Victorian era. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dan l</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan l</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know how to put this.  

As &lt;em&gt;the straight guy&lt;/em&gt; I find myself regularly engaged in discussions with friends about gay marriage, simply because it&#039;s an issue that I&#039;m kind of passionate about . 

I find that, amongst my friends, there is a difference not in the measure of homophobia, but in the kind of homophobia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how to put this.  </p>
<p>As <em>the straight guy</em> I find myself regularly engaged in discussions with friends about gay marriage, simply because it&#8217;s an issue that I&#8217;m kind of passionate about . </p>
<p>I find that, amongst my friends, there is a difference not in the measure of homophobia, but in the kind of homophobia.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Seven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Seven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, T.

As a white gay male diversity educator, I&#039;ve noticed that when speaking to a diverse crowd, I have to acknowledge my white privilege over and over and over again before any person of color in my audience will listen to a word I say about heterosexism.  If I don&#039;t do the pre-work, they tune me out -- presumably because I&#039;m white and therefore have no problems.

Unfortunately, most visible gay people in America are white gay people -- the diversity of the LGBT community hasn&#039;t permeated the world of mass media -- and I&#039;m afraid that the African-American heterosexual community looks at gay people as &quot;freaky white folks&quot; and they resent the message that homophobia is a destructive force, especially since most of us don&#039;t preface those remarks by acknowledging the pain that social ills such as racism and sexism cause heterosexuals every day.

I call this &quot;the Oppression Olympics,&quot; and there are a lot of white gay people who play the game too -- insisting that the hatred they experience for being gay is worse than anything a black person has ever encountered.  Some people can&#039;t seem to see past their own pain to hear about the pain of others.  And, in the end, the only ones who benefit are the rich white straight men -- again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, T.</p>
<p>As a white gay male diversity educator, I&#8217;ve noticed that when speaking to a diverse crowd, I have to acknowledge my white privilege over and over and over again before any person of color in my audience will listen to a word I say about heterosexism.  If I don&#8217;t do the pre-work, they tune me out &#8212; presumably because I&#8217;m white and therefore have no problems.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, most visible gay people in America are white gay people &#8212; the diversity of the LGBT community hasn&#8217;t permeated the world of mass media &#8212; and I&#8217;m afraid that the African-American heterosexual community looks at gay people as &#8220;freaky white folks&#8221; and they resent the message that homophobia is a destructive force, especially since most of us don&#8217;t preface those remarks by acknowledging the pain that social ills such as racism and sexism cause heterosexuals every day.</p>
<p>I call this &#8220;the Oppression Olympics,&#8221; and there are a lot of white gay people who play the game too &#8212; insisting that the hatred they experience for being gay is worse than anything a black person has ever encountered.  Some people can&#8217;t seem to see past their own pain to hear about the pain of others.  And, in the end, the only ones who benefit are the rich white straight men &#8212; again.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike (AKA Prime)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike (AKA Prime)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I read this, I found myself nodding in agreement, based on my own experiences.  Then I had to step back and ask myself &quot;is it that Blacks as a group are more homophobic, or is it that as a group, they are more likely to express their homophobia?&quot;

I have experienced prejudice and racism in many forms, as a Black man, as a Gay man, and as a Black Gay man. What I have learned as Black man is that those who may not like me for who I am, have skillfully learned how to appear to be tolerant while still holding on to their fears and prejudices.  They find it easier to not let me see that side of them, so they think.  I believe that this came about as racial prejudice became looked upon negatively by our society and to outwardly display it, could mean being labeled negatively.

Having not had the same experience, Blacks tend to be more vocal about their prejudices, since hating &quot;the man&quot; is not so bad when you consider what he has done historically. Its easily excused. So now add another sub class, and we see the same outward expression of hatred and prejudice.  With justification from the church, its a mix for our people feeling justified in their expression and actions.

Just my thoughts on the matter though.  Again, this is based only on my personal experiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I read this, I found myself nodding in agreement, based on my own experiences.  Then I had to step back and ask myself &#8220;is it that Blacks as a group are more homophobic, or is it that as a group, they are more likely to express their homophobia?&#8221;</p>
<p>I have experienced prejudice and racism in many forms, as a Black man, as a Gay man, and as a Black Gay man. What I have learned as Black man is that those who may not like me for who I am, have skillfully learned how to appear to be tolerant while still holding on to their fears and prejudices.  They find it easier to not let me see that side of them, so they think.  I believe that this came about as racial prejudice became looked upon negatively by our society and to outwardly display it, could mean being labeled negatively.</p>
<p>Having not had the same experience, Blacks tend to be more vocal about their prejudices, since hating &#8220;the man&#8221; is not so bad when you consider what he has done historically. Its easily excused. So now add another sub class, and we see the same outward expression of hatred and prejudice.  With justification from the church, its a mix for our people feeling justified in their expression and actions.</p>
<p>Just my thoughts on the matter though.  Again, this is based only on my personal experiences.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me that&#039;s key - that homophobia is done in the name of Jesus. (Or maybe God. The OT seems to be quoted at least as much as the NT.) Without quoting scripture, there really isn&#039;t a rational argument against it. I&#039;ve listened carefully and I&#039;m 100% confident I can personally rebut every argument I&#039;ve ever heard.

Moreover, I don&#039;t think there&#039;s really such thing as an argument from scripture that&#039;s anything more than a purported argument from scripture. I&#039;ve let someone post an anti gay point of view on my blog for discussion purposes but I&#039;ll be countering it in probably my next post after moderating the present thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me that&#8217;s key &#8211; that homophobia is done in the name of Jesus. (Or maybe God. The OT seems to be quoted at least as much as the NT.) Without quoting scripture, there really isn&#8217;t a rational argument against it. I&#8217;ve listened carefully and I&#8217;m 100% confident I can personally rebut every argument I&#8217;ve ever heard.</p>
<p>Moreover, I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s really such thing as an argument from scripture that&#8217;s anything more than a purported argument from scripture. I&#8217;ve let someone post an anti gay point of view on my blog for discussion purposes but I&#8217;ll be countering it in probably my next post after moderating the present thread.</p>
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