Comments on: The Morning After: Kucinich http://www.republicoft.com/2007/08/10/the-morning-after-kucinich/ Black. Gay. Father. Vegetarian. Buddhist. Liberal. Sun, 23 Nov 2008 14:26:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: brat http://www.republicoft.com/2007/08/10/the-morning-after-kucinich/#comment-169819 brat Sun, 12 Aug 2007 21:00:37 +0000 http://www.republicoft.com/2007/08/10/the-morning-after-kucinich/#comment-169819 I voted for Kucinich last time and I will again. It's pretty basic for me...our political leaders either support full civil rights for all AMericans, or they don't. Obviously, most don't. So, I guess they don't need my hard earned queer dollars, now do they... I voted for Kucinich last time and I will again. It’s pretty basic for me…our political leaders either support full civil rights for all AMericans, or they don’t.

Obviously, most don’t. So, I guess they don’t need my hard earned queer dollars, now do they…

]]> By: David Bright http://www.republicoft.com/2007/08/10/the-morning-after-kucinich/#comment-169800 David Bright Sun, 12 Aug 2007 12:14:22 +0000 http://www.republicoft.com/2007/08/10/the-morning-after-kucinich/#comment-169800 The reason people say they like Kucinich but won't vote for him is because they have zero understanding of the primary election process. The purpose of a primary is for rank and file Democratic voters to tell their party -- and the alleged "leadership" of the party -- which candidate best represents that individual rank-and-file voter. But the media and the monied wing of the Democratic party want to get us lost in the "electibility" game, a word, by the way, that was undefined before John Kerry defined it. If you want marraige equality, and Kucinich is the candidate who supports it, and you don't vote for Kucinich, then the party leadership will say "well I guess they didn't want marraige equality after all." If you know the Kucinich is the best candidate to represent your self interests, but you vote for another candidate the TV says is "electible" and then you hope that other candidate will adopt your issues once in office, you are exhibiting classic co-dependent behavior -- acting against your own self interests in order to please someone in the hope they will change. It's exactly the same as someone living with an alcoholic or an abusive partner. The establishment Democratic Party has flourished because of this behavior. Every two or four years the Democratic Party shows up at your door with candy and flowers, says it really respects you, and promises to work on your behalf. Then as soon as you please it with your vote you get assaulted again. The party continues to fund the war, convinces itself that domestic partnership is the same thing as marriage -- even though a judge in Los Angeles ruled a couple of weeks ago that domestic partnerships are nothing more than legalized cohabitation -- they continue to allow unfair trade at the expense of U.S. jobs, and they don't deliver on universal health care. It's time to stand up to the Democratic Party, and let it know that this time you WILL vote in your own best interests and not worry about the polls, the pundits or the promises ready to be broken. There are no Republicans running in the Democratic primary. And the Democratic nominee, and the Democratic Party platform, will not be determined by individual primary votes, but by a majority of the the 4,360 delegates to the Democratic National Convention. Ideally a majority of those delegates will be Kucinich delegates, but there is still the possibility that after the primaries no candidate will have a majority of delegates, and delegates for any candidate who drops out will be able to switch to Kucinich. So the thing to do is go to your caucus or primary and vote Kucinich, then continue through the delegate selection process in your state. So show some pride. Hold your head high and support Kucinich - with your contribution, your voice and your vote. The reason people say they like Kucinich but won’t vote for him is because they have zero understanding of the primary election process. The purpose of a primary is for rank and file Democratic voters to tell their party — and the alleged “leadership” of the party — which candidate best represents that individual rank-and-file voter. But the media and the monied wing of the Democratic party want to get us lost in the “electibility” game, a word, by the way, that was undefined before John Kerry defined it.

If you want marraige equality, and Kucinich is the candidate who supports it, and you don’t vote for Kucinich, then the party leadership will say “well I guess they didn’t want marraige equality after all.”

If you know the Kucinich is the best candidate to represent your self interests, but you vote for another candidate the TV says is “electible” and then you hope that other candidate will adopt your issues once in office, you are exhibiting classic co-dependent behavior — acting against your own self interests in order to please someone in the hope they will change. It’s exactly the same as someone living with an alcoholic or an abusive partner.

The establishment Democratic Party has flourished because of this behavior. Every two or four years the Democratic Party shows up at your door with candy and flowers, says it really respects you, and promises to work on your behalf. Then as soon as you please it with your vote you get assaulted again. The party continues to fund the war, convinces itself that domestic partnership is the same thing as marriage — even though a judge in Los Angeles ruled a couple of weeks ago that domestic partnerships are nothing more than legalized cohabitation — they continue to allow unfair trade at the expense of U.S. jobs, and they don’t deliver on universal health care.

It’s time to stand up to the Democratic Party, and let it know that this time you WILL vote in your own best interests and not worry about the polls, the pundits or the promises ready to be broken.

There are no Republicans running in the Democratic primary. And the Democratic nominee, and the Democratic Party platform, will not be determined by individual primary votes, but by a majority of the the 4,360 delegates to the Democratic National Convention. Ideally a majority of those delegates will be Kucinich delegates, but there is still the possibility that after the primaries no candidate will have a majority of delegates, and delegates for any candidate who drops out will be able to switch to Kucinich. So the thing to do is go to your caucus or primary and vote Kucinich, then continue through the delegate selection process in your state.

So show some pride. Hold your head high and support Kucinich - with your contribution, your voice and your vote.

]]> By: EKSwitaj http://www.republicoft.com/2007/08/10/the-morning-after-kucinich/#comment-169640 EKSwitaj Sat, 11 Aug 2007 23:07:27 +0000 http://www.republicoft.com/2007/08/10/the-morning-after-kucinich/#comment-169640 The comparison to dating is very insightful. I supported Kucinich in the last election, too. What I still hear again and again from people who agree with Kucinich on the issues is that they don't think it's realistic to think he can get elected. It's a tragic self-fulfilling prophecy. The comparison to dating is very insightful. I supported Kucinich in the last election, too. What I still hear again and again from people who agree with Kucinich on the issues is that they don’t think it’s realistic to think he can get elected. It’s a tragic self-fulfilling prophecy.

]]> By: MuzakBox http://www.republicoft.com/2007/08/10/the-morning-after-kucinich/#comment-169097 MuzakBox Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:43:42 +0000 http://www.republicoft.com/2007/08/10/the-morning-after-kucinich/#comment-169097 I absolutely love Kucinich and I am so confused as to why he is not more popular. He is smart, dedicated, compassionate. His views are clear, strong, progressive. Are we as progressives such cynics that we brush off real idealism and leadership. Real vision and hope in exchange for a watered down version of that what we really hold dear in the hope that...I can't even answer what the hopes are. Is it really just "electability"? I mean can't we see that after the horrible degradation that we've been through Kucinich IS electable. That we the people hunger for him and the only reason that we won't get him or someone else like him is this constant playing it safe. Hedging the bets. Dennis is no holds barred on his belief system. He wouldn't say there are things that people running for the candidacy shouldn't say even if we believe it. He wouldn't say that he was "unsure" about equality just to get into office even if he truly does believe in equality. I agree with you. Any money I can and any time I have until the primaries. I absolutely love Kucinich and I am so confused as to why he is not more popular. He is smart, dedicated, compassionate. His views are clear, strong, progressive. Are we as progressives such cynics that we brush off real idealism and leadership. Real vision and hope in exchange for a watered down version of that what we really hold dear in the hope that…I can’t even answer what the hopes are. Is it really just “electability”? I mean can’t we see that after the horrible degradation that we’ve been through Kucinich IS electable. That we the people hunger for him and the only reason that we won’t get him or someone else like him is this constant playing it safe. Hedging the bets. Dennis is no holds barred on his belief system. He wouldn’t say there are things that people running for the candidacy shouldn’t say even if we believe it. He wouldn’t say that he was “unsure” about equality just to get into office even if he truly does believe in equality.

I agree with you. Any money I can and any time I have until the primaries.

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