Comments on: Obama’s Crap Sandwich, With Extra Homo http://www.republicoft.com/2007/10/25/obamas-crap-sandwich-with-extra-homo/ Black. Gay. Father. Vegetarian. Buddhist. Liberal. Tue, 07 Feb 2012 02:47:01 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bruce http://www.republicoft.com/2007/10/25/obamas-crap-sandwich-with-extra-homo/comment-page-1/#comment-174662 Bruce Sat, 27 Oct 2007 04:42:03 +0000 http://www.republicoft.com/2007/10/25/obamas-crap-sandwich-with-extra-homo/#comment-174662 I would submit that all reading of (Christian) scripture must be selective, as the Christian scriptures are internally inconsistent. One must apply an interpretative philosophy, what in law would be called a school of jurisprudence, to reconcile these inconsistencies, and the choice of that interpretative philosophy ultimately requires a decision that does not rely on the content of the Scriptures alone. Even if one chooses a rule such as "majority rules" i.e. a proposition that has 4 bases of support in the Bible beats out its opposite supported by 2 bases, that rule is not stated in the Christian Scriptures nor is a definition of a "basis"/passage, etc. Does our sense of decency, of kindness, flow from the Bible or does the Bible merely occasionally confirm that sense? If you choose the passages in the Bible that support decency and fairness rather than cruelty and mass injustice, you are reading the Bible selectively. You must then ask, why? Why are you choosing to apply a decent hermeneutic to a collection of writings which frequently advocate, praise or mandate indecency in blunt language? And, reflecting <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthyphro#Third_definition" rel="nofollow">Euthyphro</a>, is decency decent because the Bible says it is, or does the Bible merely reflect decency rather than create its definition, for this purpose? This is not germane specifically to same-sex love and relationships but more generally to all topics on which Bible-bangers bang. When Bible Christians will admit that they ALL engage in selective readings, and when they can show at least passing familiarity with Plato, then I will take them more seriously. I would submit that all reading of (Christian) scripture must be selective, as the Christian scriptures are internally inconsistent. One must apply an interpretative philosophy, what in law would be called a school of jurisprudence, to reconcile these inconsistencies, and the choice of that interpretative philosophy ultimately requires a decision that does not rely on the content of the Scriptures alone. Even if one chooses a rule such as “majority rules” i.e. a proposition that has 4 bases of support in the Bible beats out its opposite supported by 2 bases, that rule is not stated in the Christian Scriptures nor is a definition of a “basis”/passage, etc.

Does our sense of decency, of kindness, flow from the Bible or does the Bible merely occasionally confirm that sense?

If you choose the passages in the Bible that support decency and fairness rather than cruelty and mass injustice, you are reading the Bible selectively. You must then ask, why? Why are you choosing to apply a decent hermeneutic to a collection of writings which frequently advocate, praise or mandate indecency in blunt language? And, reflecting Euthyphro, is decency decent because the Bible says it is, or does the Bible merely reflect decency rather than create its definition, for this purpose?

This is not germane specifically to same-sex love and relationships but more generally to all topics on which Bible-bangers bang. When Bible Christians will admit that they ALL engage in selective readings, and when they can show at least passing familiarity with Plato, then I will take them more seriously.

]]> By: Yogo http://www.republicoft.com/2007/10/25/obamas-crap-sandwich-with-extra-homo/comment-page-1/#comment-174640 Yogo Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:05:23 +0000 http://www.republicoft.com/2007/10/25/obamas-crap-sandwich-with-extra-homo/#comment-174640 Obama in an unguarded moment. Watch his remarks about carrying a purse. http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2007/10/18/obama.shopping.cnn Obama in an unguarded moment. Watch his remarks about carrying a purse.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2007/10/18/obama.shopping.cnn

]]> By: Pandagon :: Team Obama: recruiting a white pastor=bad idea :: October :: 2007 http://www.republicoft.com/2007/10/25/obamas-crap-sandwich-with-extra-homo/comment-page-1/#comment-174638 Pandagon :: Team Obama: recruiting a white pastor=bad idea :: October :: 2007 Fri, 26 Oct 2007 03:43:45 +0000 http://www.republicoft.com/2007/10/25/obamas-crap-sandwich-with-extra-homo/#comment-174638 [...] Terrance has a couple of suggestions in his post "Obama’s Crap Sandwich, With Extra Homo", if you Obama folks (that is, if you still have your jobs) — Rev. Horace Griffin, author of Their Own Receive Them Not: African American Lesbians And Gays in Black Churches and Rev. Irene Monroe as well. [...] [...] Terrance has a couple of suggestions in his post "Obama’s Crap Sandwich, With Extra Homo", if you Obama folks (that is, if you still have your jobs) — Rev. Horace Griffin, author of Their Own Receive Them Not: African American Lesbians And Gays in Black Churches and Rev. Irene Monroe as well. [...]

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