Comments on: Pregnancy as Punishment http://www.republicoft.com/2008/04/08/pregnancy-as-punishment/ Black. Gay. Father. Vegetarian. Buddhist. Liberal. Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:35:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: McCain's VP - Page 8 - Fencing.Net Discussion http://www.republicoft.com/2008/04/08/pregnancy-as-punishment/#comment-184459 McCain's VP - Page 8 - Fencing.Net Discussion Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:12:14 +0000 http://www.republicoft.com/2008/04/08/pregnancy-as-punishment/#comment-184459 [...] Originally Posted by Grimaldi Say what you will, the polls show the majority (or at least a significant plurality) believe the media is definitely pro-Obama and pro-Democrat. This is an old and inaccurate meme. Here's a random assortment of articles on the topic (I did a search through my email "sent" box for "liberal media" and just grabbed a few items): Progressives: Stop Being Suckers Journalists were ‘under enormous pressure from corporate executives’ "Questions on Patriotism! Is he exposed?" Meet the Press: Pregnancy as Punishment [...] [...] Originally Posted by Grimaldi Say what you will, the polls show the majority (or at least a significant plurality) believe the media is definitely pro-Obama and pro-Democrat. This is an old and inaccurate meme. Here’s a random assortment of articles on the topic (I did a search through my email "sent" box for "liberal media" and just grabbed a few items): Progressives: Stop Being Suckers Journalists were ‘under enormous pressure from corporate executives’ "Questions on Patriotism! Is he exposed?" Meet the Press: Pregnancy as Punishment [...]

]]> By: rachel http://www.republicoft.com/2008/04/08/pregnancy-as-punishment/#comment-180653 rachel Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:25:21 +0000 http://www.republicoft.com/2008/04/08/pregnancy-as-punishment/#comment-180653 Abstinence-only proponents absolutely think pregnancy/childbirth/stuck with the sprat for 18 years is a punishment! Because there MUST be punishment for premarital sex, and they don't get to stone people any more, or force them to marry. Pregnancy, etc. is all that's left. I think what Obama was trying to say was that he doesn't think his daughter would deserve to be punished in ANY way for having sex. And I agree with that, but am vaguely embarrassed to find myself saying, "I think what he REALLY meant..." I don't want to be anyone's apologist, here. Abstinence-only proponents absolutely think pregnancy/childbirth/stuck with the sprat for 18 years is a punishment! Because there MUST be punishment for premarital sex, and they don’t get to stone people any more, or force them to marry. Pregnancy, etc. is all that’s left.

I think what Obama was trying to say was that he doesn’t think his daughter would deserve to be punished in ANY way for having sex. And I agree with that, but am vaguely embarrassed to find myself saying, “I think what he REALLY meant…” I don’t want to be anyone’s apologist, here.

]]> By: Katharine http://www.republicoft.com/2008/04/08/pregnancy-as-punishment/#comment-180645 Katharine Wed, 09 Apr 2008 04:36:24 +0000 http://www.republicoft.com/2008/04/08/pregnancy-as-punishment/#comment-180645 That thought had occurred to me, but if men were the gender that had the babies, would they still be "men," with all the status that goes with that? In other words, if they became the birthing gender, would the women have been filling the breadwinner role traditionally associated with male heads of households? In other words, if we boil it down, how much inequity comes from that key difference? You see where I'm going with this. :) That thought had occurred to me, but if men were the gender that had the babies, would they still be “men,” with all the status that goes with that? In other words, if they became the birthing gender, would the women have been filling the breadwinner role traditionally associated with male heads of households? In other words, if we boil it down, how much inequity comes from that key difference? You see where I’m going with this. :)

]]> By: terrance http://www.republicoft.com/2008/04/08/pregnancy-as-punishment/#comment-180636 terrance Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:30:10 +0000 http://www.republicoft.com/2008/04/08/pregnancy-as-punishment/#comment-180636 <blockquote>I just do not understand why we don’t yet have a better way of bringing babies into the world.</blockquote> It's simple. Because men (<a href="http://www.advocate.com/exclusive_detail_ektid52947.asp" rel="nofollow">Thomas Beatie</a> notwithstanding) don't have babies.

I just do not understand why we don’t yet have a better way of bringing babies into the world.

It’s simple. Because men (Thomas Beatie notwithstanding) don’t have babies.

]]> By: Katharine http://www.republicoft.com/2008/04/08/pregnancy-as-punishment/#comment-180635 Katharine Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:09:30 +0000 http://www.republicoft.com/2008/04/08/pregnancy-as-punishment/#comment-180635 Why we don't have full-term incubator technology by now as a norm is beyond me. We can send people to the moon, but we can't bring them into the world without pain and suffering. Strange priorities, in my book. After having just seen (okay, I wasn't in the delivery room or anything, but I heard about it) my sister go through it, I just do not understand why we don't yet have a better way of bringing babies into the world. Why we don’t have full-term incubator technology by now as a norm is beyond me. We can send people to the moon, but we can’t bring them into the world without pain and suffering. Strange priorities, in my book. After having just seen (okay, I wasn’t in the delivery room or anything, but I heard about it) my sister go through it, I just do not understand why we don’t yet have a better way of bringing babies into the world.

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