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	<title>Comments on: Penis Into Vagina Equals Marriage</title>
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		<title>By: lamb</title>
		<link>http://www.republicoft.com/2008/05/20/penis-into-vagina-equals-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-185396</link>
		<dc:creator>lamb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 23:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mm. i don&#039;t know if you can conclude the lady is crazy. since cohabit = consummation = sexual intercourse = penis into vagina, by husband and wife, husband = male spouse, wife = female spouse. 

i don&#039;t know either that it can be argued this definition has been obsoleted. we&#039;re still talking about it and Prop 8 passed in california.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mm. i don&#8217;t know if you can conclude the lady is crazy. since cohabit = consummation = sexual intercourse = penis into vagina, by husband and wife, husband = male spouse, wife = female spouse. </p>
<p>i don&#8217;t know either that it can be argued this definition has been obsoleted. we&#8217;re still talking about it and Prop 8 passed in california.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 06:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If consummation of marriage involves penis-in-vagina intercourse, then it follows that forced consummation is possible in the form of a husband vaginally raping his wife without her consent (or in spite of her objections). Would marital rape then be condoned since she consented to the marriage, consummation is only natural?

It makes me cringe to think about cases like these, but it just shows how silly it gets (and how disturbingly preposterous it can be) when one follows a strict definition of a social construct.

Further more, if we get into technicalities, is a marriage considered consummated if one party does not remember the intercourse or was cognitively disabled (by alcohol or drugs) during the act? Is orgasm or ejaculation a requirement? Does one organ have to come in contact with the other? If yes, then how about condom use?

For that matter, how does the state know that a marriage is consummated? Do people have to produce porno-styled video of their bedroom action to prove that their marriage is in fact penis-in-vagina-intercourse-consummated?

Obviously the state would never require video tape proof of consummation -- in which case consummation of marriage comes only after paternity testing of the first born, which, once again, as these nut heads always did, reduce the meaning of marriage to procreation.

However, even that is problematic -- how does the state know that conception was not performed using a turkey baster, and the husband ever penetrated the wife&#039;s vagina with his penis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If consummation of marriage involves penis-in-vagina intercourse, then it follows that forced consummation is possible in the form of a husband vaginally raping his wife without her consent (or in spite of her objections). Would marital rape then be condoned since she consented to the marriage, consummation is only natural?</p>
<p>It makes me cringe to think about cases like these, but it just shows how silly it gets (and how disturbingly preposterous it can be) when one follows a strict definition of a social construct.</p>
<p>Further more, if we get into technicalities, is a marriage considered consummated if one party does not remember the intercourse or was cognitively disabled (by alcohol or drugs) during the act? Is orgasm or ejaculation a requirement? Does one organ have to come in contact with the other? If yes, then how about condom use?</p>
<p>For that matter, how does the state know that a marriage is consummated? Do people have to produce porno-styled video of their bedroom action to prove that their marriage is in fact penis-in-vagina-intercourse-consummated?</p>
<p>Obviously the state would never require video tape proof of consummation &#8212; in which case consummation of marriage comes only after paternity testing of the first born, which, once again, as these nut heads always did, reduce the meaning of marriage to procreation.</p>
<p>However, even that is problematic &#8212; how does the state know that conception was not performed using a turkey baster, and the husband ever penetrated the wife&#8217;s vagina with his penis?</p>
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		<title>By: GDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>GDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 13:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know those science fiction movies where some futuristic scanner reveals an alien parasite that has taken control of a human?  I am convinced that this circumstance exists in these whackadoodle pundits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know those science fiction movies where some futuristic scanner reveals an alien parasite that has taken control of a human?  I am convinced that this circumstance exists in these whackadoodle pundits.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 04:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh...I think their (homophobes) definition is fine as long as they can then admit that Jesus was a bastard child having been born to an unconsummated (and therefore un-married) Mary.  So, if she really was a virgin and if sex was supposed to be the deciding factor that legalizes a marriage (i.e. consummation), then Mary and Joseph who didn&#039;t have sex (since she was a Virgin after all) were never really married.  That makes Jesus born to an un-wed mother and out of wedlock.  So, if the homophobes can reconcile THAT ONE then I would be ok not getting married.  Somehow, I highly doubt they could.  So, MARRIAGE FOR EVERYONE!!!!! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh&#8230;I think their (homophobes) definition is fine as long as they can then admit that Jesus was a bastard child having been born to an unconsummated (and therefore un-married) Mary.  So, if she really was a virgin and if sex was supposed to be the deciding factor that legalizes a marriage (i.e. consummation), then Mary and Joseph who didn&#8217;t have sex (since she was a Virgin after all) were never really married.  That makes Jesus born to an un-wed mother and out of wedlock.  So, if the homophobes can reconcile THAT ONE then I would be ok not getting married.  Somehow, I highly doubt they could.  So, MARRIAGE FOR EVERYONE!!!!! <img src='http://www.republicoft.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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